Experiencing Change

Things we can learn from a miracle healing that Jesus did on the sabbath.

Scott Rodgers
Feb 17, 2019    42m
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In this sermon Pastor Scott Rodgers teaches us things we can learn from a miracle healing that occured in The Book of John chapter nine. Jesus healed a blind man on the sabbath, this caused many to question this miracle. So the man that was healed was interrogated, but he had no answer as to why he'd been healed. He just knew that he was blind, and now he could see. Pastor Thomas explains that it's important to answer questions others have about your faith honestly. But it's ok to say, I don't know. Video recorded at Chandler, Arizona.

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Scott Rodgers: 00:25 Hey Cornerstone. Good to see you guys. Come on. Glad to have you here. My name is Scott and I'm thrilled to be with you all today. Let's give it up for everyone at the San Tan and the Scottsdale location, even those joining us online right now. So glad to have you a part of the Cornerstone experience today. And if this is your first time here at Cornerstone, man, we're just thrilled that you chose to take some time out of your schedule and come on out. Maybe someone who cares about you, invited you to come with them today. And we just hope that when we're done in about 30 minutes, you can walk out actually going, man, I'm glad that I went to Cornerstone today. That's our prayer. And so we're just grateful that you're here. Let's give it up for those folks that might be here for the very first time, and we're glad to have ya. Good, good times.

Scott Rodgers: 01:09 And you know, you may have already heard, we're going to be kicking off the new series next week called, Jesus. You can't get more innovative than that, I mean come on. Like you're going to be digging into the life and the teachings of Christ, and Linn's going to be unpacking that in some amazing ways. And if you are at all curious on what are these teachings that Jesus shares with us that had been resonating and reverberating around the world for centuries, we're going to be digging into those. And I encourage us all to come to that whole series with an open heart saying, God, I don't just want to hear about you, but I want to have a moment with you. Would you do something in my heart and in my life during that series? And I'm telling ya, God's always at work, and he will definitely do that. So come on with open hearts, it's going to be fantastic.

Scott Rodgers: 01:58 Today what we're going to be doing, is we're having what I call a stand alone conversation. That just means the boundaries are removed, and it's like Scott talk about something that's going to be helpful and encouraging and biblical and something that's burning on the inside of you, and just have at it. So I love moments like this because when I do this, I kind of peripherally ask the question of, okay, if I had one shot of having a single conversation with someone, or a group of folks, God, what are you doing in my life right now that could encourage someone else? And I want to talk to you about that today, and I hope that this message passes what I call the donut test. How many of you guys here love donuts? Any doughnut lovers in Scottsdale? Okay, how many of you are like me, and you don't do the donut thing anymore, but it sounds so awesome? And just the mention of donuts, you're like, Satan, get behind me. This is not a good thing, stop it, quit talking about it. To those of you that just raised your hand and you've distanced yourself from the donuts, my apologies ahead of time when I say this, donuts are delicious, I mean, they're just sinfully delicious. And what's crazy about donuts for all of us, and those of you who continue to eat them, isn't it funny how will eat this doughnut that's just, it's like, man, if heaven is like this, okay, I'm all in God. Whatever you want to do with the rest of my life, I'm going there, and it's just so awesome. But isn't it funny like 10-15 minutes later we're like, oh, and you know, the sugar crash. And we often ask our self, why do I keep doing this? I pay for it every time, why do I keep doing this? So let's talk about our conversation passing the donut test. All I want to do is hopefully we'll enjoy our conversation, but I'm hoping that there's some spiritual protein in this that's going to stick with us. That we can come back to later in our life that God can use as we go on throughout our day, and throughout our future. So that's my prayer for today's message.

Scott Rodgers: 04:06 So if you have a Bible with you, go to the New Testament. The Book of John. John chapter nine. Paper Bible people, if you bring your paper Bible to church, raise your hand. If that's you, awesome, fantastic. You guys are like, oh, we see you paper bible people think you all spiritual, huh? Well, I carry my Bible with me wherever I go, it's on my mobile device. How many of you guys are mobile device bible people, there you go, awesome. If you don't have a Bible accessible to you right now, you can always download the Bible App. We're going to have the scriptures on the screen as we go through our message, but I always encourage you to navigate scripture on your own. So you can do that throughout the week, and not just here while you're at Cornerstone. So John chapter nine, let me give you some context to the whole conversation today.

Scott Rodgers: 04:52 While you're at John nine, let me take you back a little bit to a time of my life when I was going to my ten year class reunion. Anybody here old enough to have gone to a ten year class reunion? Okay, some of you were like Scott, that was so long ago, I don't even remember what my ten year class reunion was. Has anybody...no you don't have to raise your hand to that. But here's what's interesting about the ten year class reunion, in my experiences, were not that far removed from high school or certainly college. So we're going into our ten year class reunion, scoping everyone out. Because we still want to try to impress one another, right? And so we'd go in, and it's like, okay, did so and so get married, and who did they marry? And did the one that we all voted most likely to succeed, are they a big success, or are they crashed and burned already? And then, you know, we all look for the one that if we would have voted for most likely to fail, and we're like, are they Mark Zuckerberg yet, or what's going on in their life? So we're scoping each other out, trying to impress one another. The game is still on at the ten year, at the school reunion.

Scott Rodgers: 05:59 So when I was there I had been a follower of Jesus, while at my ten year class reunion, I was a follower of Christ for six years. So God had been at work in my life for a few years. So my wife, [inaudible] and I were at the class reunion, it's buffet style. We grab our food, we go sit down at our table where there's like six chairs around you know the banquet table, and the other four chairs are occupied. Two couples, and both of the guys, I knew well. In fact we had gone to school together from kindergarten, first grade all the way through school. So though we were never best friends, we knew each other really well, and hung out together now and then all throughout school. And we're sitting there and we're just kind of doing the small talk, the chit chat, while we're eating some food. And one of the guys says, oh, hold on, who are you? And before I can say anything, the other guy says, yeah, who are you? I go, guys, it's me, I'm Scott Rodgers, if I'm lying, i'm dying. They stopped chewing their food, and they stare at me. Now granted the Jon Bon Jovi hairdo attempt was gone from the senior year, so I look different in that regard. But God had, had six years of working in my life up to that point, and I was changed. Not only did I look different a little bit, everything about me was different. My mind's attention was different, my heart's affection was different, God had done a transformational work in my life. I was less like the guy who added a little church to his life, and more like the man in Matthew chapter eight where Jesus cast out the Legion of Demons. And I'm like, that's me man, radical life change right here. I mean I was so different in every way, that sitting just three or four feet across from two guys who I'd spent 11 or 12 years of life with, couldn't even recognize me. God had done a work in my life.

Scott Rodgers: 08:24 Now let's just test this, see if I'm making this stuff up. Anybody here, in Scottsdale or Chandler, where you could say the same thing, that your relationship with Christ has resulted in change in your life, like legitimate life change? Raise your hand if you've experienced that, if you're a follower of Jesus? Okay, put your hands back down, let me ask it again, because a bunch of hands went up. I want to make sure not lying while you're in church, okay? Be honest about this, think about something specific that if it weren't for God, it wouldn't have happened in your life. Because of your relationship with Christ, have you genuinely and honestly experienced transformation in that area of your life? Raise your hand again if that's true for you. See, we're not making this stuff up, are we? This is legitimate, this is the real deal.

Scott Rodgers: 09:17 Let me ask us this question, is it possible to have a genuine encounter with Christ, and remain the same? Probably a number of opinions in the room, and at the campuses. Is it possible so you have an experience with God, yet remain just as we are? I think that we're going to find in John chapter nine, this guy who has an encounter with Christ would have a strong opinion for that question, and I think many of us are going to find that we would agree with what his opinion probably is. So go to John chapter nine and know this before we read it, we're going to go through this whole chapter quickly, and we're going to make some observations as we go. But then we're going to kind of pause, and look at some applications that we can actually apply to our lives, that I think is going to be beneficial. And this is if you're here and you're a follower of Jesus, or maybe you're not. You're a Christian or you're a non-Christian, I think this conversation is going to be helpful and maybe even insightful, especially for those of you who are yet to be a follower of Christ. So I hope that this is valuable for you as well.

Scott Rodgers: 10:26 So go to John chapter nine verse one, and here's where it starts off. It says, "As he went along." This is talking about Jesus. "As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. His disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?”" Now that's a unique question, isn't it? We may not ask that too much in our culture today, but back then, especially in religious circles, they really believed that a person's physical suffering was directly connected to their personal sin. That's why they asked the question, well who sinned? Because here's his condition, so what's its origin? Was it, did he sin somehow, or was it his parents sin that caused this condition? Sadly, that still remains today. Some believe, or would say, that you know our suffering is directly connected, our personal suffering or a physical suffering, is because of our personal sin. Well, here's what Jesus says. He says in verse three, "Neither this man nor his parents sinned, but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him." Let's think about this for a moment. It's kind of been confusing to folks who read this. Basically, first he says this, he says, neither this man nor his parents sinned. Now, for those of you who are familiar with the Bible, you might recall in Romans chapter three where it says clearly, "For all have sinned, and fallen short of the glory of God." So we know because of that, and other scriptures, Jesus isn't saying here that these folks have never sinned. What he seems to be saying is, that his suffering is not the result of anyone's personal sin, but he doesn't go to answering the question about the origin of his suffering. And we're going to see in the next few verses that he's really focused, it's like mission critical, a sense of urgency. So he doesn't allow himself to get distracted by a theological, or even philosophical rabbit trail. But in a way he says this, he says, you know, I'm not going to get into what caused it, but I will tell you this one thing, God's going to get glory in it. This has happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him. So let's keep going. You guys still with me?

Scott Rodgers: 12:53 Alright, for the four of you, I'm with you. Man all five of us are marching ahead. Verse four he says, "As long as it's day." Here's this urgency. "As long as it is day, we must do the works of him who sent me. Night is coming, when no one can work. While I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”" Verse six, "After saying this, he spit on the ground. And all the guys said, amen? I'm trying. "After saying this, he spit on the ground, made some mud with the saliva, and put it on the man's eyes." Now, this is crazy. It's good to know that the whole book of John serves the purpose of identifying Jesus as Christ. It's the book of identity about the deity of Jesus. And so through The Book of John, he's doing signs and miracles, proving that who he says he is is true. This is a miracle, but the scripture says that he spits on the ground, and make some mud with the saliva. Now, I'm actually going to, in my own privacy, I'm going to try this. Because I haven't done this before. Because I'm just thinking, this isn't just a little bit of spit, this isn't some little, (spitting sounds). I mean, this was one of those where you're like, hmm, gross. Right? I mean, I'm thinking that. And I wondering, I'm speculating on this. But I wonder if Jesus is like saying, hey, you think you got me figured out, don't you? I know I've turned water into wine, and I'm performing miracles. But right when you think you've got me figured out, and you wanted to put me in your little religious box. I'm going to do something so unexpected, so unorthodox, that you're just going to stand there scratching your head, going what? He spits on the ground, makes mud, rubs it in the guy's eyes, and let's see what happens.

Scott Rodgers: 14:48 Verse seven he says to him, " “Go,” he told him, “wash in the Pool of Siloam” (this word means “Sent”). So the man went and washed, and came home seeing." A bonafide miracle. Verse eight, "His neighbors and those who had formerly seen him begging." So he's also begging for sustenance. "They asked, isn't this the same man who used to sit and beg. Well, some claim that he was." Others said, no, it's his doppelganger, he only looks like him. But he himself insisted, I am the man. Everybody say, I am the man.

Scott Rodgers: 15:21 In verse ten, "They reply, well, how then were your eyes open?" I mean, this is insane, this is a miracle. Verse 11 he says, "The man they call Jesus made some mud, and put it on my eyes. He told me to go to the Siloam and wash, so I went and washed, and then I could see. Where is this man, they asked. I don't know, he says." Everybody say, I don't know. Thank you. I don't know. Well, they don't know what to do with this. I mean, I don't know if we could even relate to. Like, what would you and I do in something like this? And so they remember, there's a technicality to this situation. This healing, this miracle, happens on the Sabbath. Now for you and for me that may not be a big issue, in that culture that was taboo. The Sabbath was off limits. No work, don't even lift a finger to help someone. They had the sabbath all confused. And so they're thinking, man, we got to take him to the religious leaders. We got to take him to the local church, the synagogue, and see what the Pharisees say about this guy. So they bring them in, and the Pharisees begin to interrogate him. What happened, tell us your story? And the guy's like, man, you know this guy named Jesus, like I guess he spits on the ground and make some mud. He rubs it in my eyes, and tells me to go to the pool and wash, I washed, and now I can see. And the Pharisees are immediately divided amongst themselves, because some of them were saying, well, this has to be God. How could this ever happen? I mean, only God could do such a thing as this. But then the other half were like, no, because he did it on the Sabbath. In their mind it was a sin. So they're concluding, well, if it's a sin, he cannot be from God. And they're divided amongst themselves, they finally say to the guy, who do you say he is? About Jesus? And the guy says, oh, he's a prophet. And the Pharisees disagree, they think Jesus is more of a problem, than a prophet. So they literally, in a way, tell the guy, hey, you go out, you chill, have a cup of coffee, listen to the Muzak in the lobby.

Scott Rodgers: 17:33 Call in his parents, let's talk to mom and dad. So they call in mom and dad, they interrogate them as well. Hey, is that your son? Was he blind at birth? Has he always been blind until today? Mm hmm. What do you think about this Jesus character? And they were like, uh uh I'm not going there. Because they knew that if they believed Jesus was something like the Messiah, they're booted out. And so they basically say, hey, our son's old enough, he can speak for himself, you talk to him. So they called the guy back in again. Go down to verse 24, here's what happens, John 9:24, "The second time they summoned the man who'd been blind. Give glory to God by telling the truth, they said. We know this man's a sinner." Why did they say that? Again, because they feel he's violated the Sabbath. Verse 25, the guy's famous reply, "He says, whether he's a sinner or not, I don't know. One thing I do know, I was blind, but now I see." I don't know, I'm not a theologian, I didn't go to seminary at Princeton. Couldn't tell ya. I know you're all agitated and worked up about this, but I'll tell you what I do know, I was blind and now I see. And they still pressed him, because they think it's not a legitimate story. And they ask him to say it again, and he gets frustrated and says, why do you keep asking me these questions? Do you too want to be one of his disciples? An to that, they're livid. They literally respond by going, you were steeped in sin at birth, how dare you lecture us in. And the Bible says, they kick him out. Isn't religion beautiful at times?

Scott Rodgers: 19:24 Jesus hears he's been kicked out, and he approaches him. And let's read a few verses and we're going to unpack this. Verse 35, "Jesus heard that they had thrown him out, and when he found him, he said, “Do you believe in the Son of Man?” “Who is he, sir?” the man asked. “Tell me so that I may believe in him.”" Quick observation, the man knows Jesus rubbed the mud in his eyes, and he experienced the miracle of getting his sight. But he's yet to connect that to Jesus as the Messiah, the son of God. So Jesus says in verse 37, "Well, you've now seen him. In fact, he's the one speaking with you." Why he talks about himself in third person, I don't know, it's kind of funny. Verse 38 it says, "The man said, Lord, I believe. And he worshiped him." Now, I mean, isn't that really the most reasonable response when we see Jesus for who he really is? Lord, I worship you. Last verse we're going to read in John nine, verse 39, "Jesus said, “For judgment I have come into this world, so that the blind will see and those who see will become blind.”

Scott Rodgers: 20:34 In this moment, he's fulfilling prophecy. Isaiah 61, Isaiah 35, the blind are going to see. And it's in this moment, he literally uses this man as perhaps one of the greatest object lessons in the history of humankind. He's given him sight. The man was blind from birth. And in this last verse Jesus, I think, is in a way saying, here's the deal. I've come to give those who have not clearly seen their heavenly father and who he is, I'm giving them sight to see who he is, I've given you spiritual eyes to see who God is. And for those who think they've got God all figured out, and think they see him clearly, they're going to realize that they're maybe a little more blind than they think. This man in John nine would agree with many of us who want to ask that question, is it possible to have a genuine encounter with Christ and remain the same? I would think that he would agree when I say, a genuine encounter with Christ changes your life, it really does. A life surrendered and submitted to Jesus results in change, transformation. It's what God wants to do in our life. Why are we having this conversation today? Because I want to try, in my small way, to stir us up, to be hungry for more transformation in our life. To be hungry, and expect it from God, know that God is glorified when we ask him to do a transforming work. Change me God, change my life, have your way in me.

Scott Rodgers: 22:17 You know there's a verse in Matthew 4:19 where it says, "Jesus says, follow me and I will make you fishers of men." How many guys have heard that before? I think in that somewhat hidden, is really the definition of what we may call a Christian. Because Jesus, think about it this way, think of that statement. Jesus says, follow me and I will make you (so there's a transforming work going on) into fishers of men. He uses their vocation to illustrate a different mission in life. And so we hear him say that to those who are curious, follow me and I will make you into fishers of men. I think in that we can find a pretty accurate definition of a Christian, and that's this, that it's one who's following Jesus, being changed by Jesus, and committed to the mission of Jesus. Change is part of the package, change is what I encourage us to go after.

Scott Rodgers: 23:16 Remember the guy and John nine verse twenty five, he says, hey, I don't know if he's a sinner. But one thing I do know, I was blind, but now I see. Shouldn't that be the subtitle to every one of our stories, for those of us who are followers of Christ? I was blank, but now I see. I was spiritually blind, completely disinterested in the things of God. Perhaps even an atheist until God got my attention, revealed myself to him, through the person of Jesus Christ. I submitted my life to him, and now I see God so much more clearly than I ever have. I don't see him perfectly yet, but a whole lot more clearly. Shouldn't that be part of our story? I was blank, but now I'm blank. I was so fearful of death, is that it? Heart stops beating, lights out, parties over, done. But since I've had an experience with Christ, I have the hope of eternal life, and that changes how I live my life. I was blank, now I'm blank. I was so preoccupied with the question of why am I here? Because I've had an experience with Christ, now I know why he's placed me on this earth. God's calling, and his purpose, for my life has become clear. I was blank, now I'm blank. That's what you and I are being invited into, his transformation, it's part of the package. And I think in this chapter we also see how do we experienced this change? Like how do I go [inaudible].

Scott Rodgers: 25:07 Maybe some of us are listening to this for the first time, maybe you're not a follower of Jesus? You're just checking the whole church thing out, and even the you know, the God stuff out. And maybe you're even wondering, okay, if this is true. I could use some change in my life, I'd be interested in a change. I don't know what I think about your Jesus yet, but man, change is pretty appealing to me. Or maybe some of us have been following Jesus for quite a long time, and we have that story of I was that, but now I'm this. But maybe that story is twenty years old, and we haven't experienced any tangible transformation in our life for two decades. I want you to be a hungry again, for growth, and for transformation. It is what God is inviting us into, it's what he wants to do in our life.

Scott Rodgers: 25:58 And in this chapter, I think that we see a couple things really clearly. One is how to remain the same, how to remain just as we are, and that's pretty easy to see, we just act like the Pharisees. Think about it, when you read John nine later, I encourage you to do that. It's entertaining at minimum, but we see that these Pharisees are full of arrogance, prejudice, and pride. Take it to the bank, guaranteed, if we want to remain as we are, not allowing God access to transform who we are. Let's just be full of arrogance, and/or prejudice, and/or pride. We will be like frozen in our tracks, we're not going to grow it all.

Scott Rodgers: 26:43 But if we take on the attitude of this guy, who received this miracle from Jesus, I think the sky's the limit in what God can do in our life. Observing how he interacted with Jesus. I think what we learn out of it, is that here's how we approach God, like he did with Jesus, with humility and obedience. Think about it for a moment, he guy stood there and let Jesus rub mud in his eyes. Now granted, I get it, he didn't see it coming. Okay? I know it's bad, isn't it. Yet, he stood there and let Jesus rub the mud on his face and in his eyes. Couldn't he have just went, whoa, get your hand out of my face. And I mean, anybody ever have someone put their hands on you? And like, if you're not married or whatever, and someone puts their hands on you? You're like, get your hands off, that's just weird. Like is it just me? Or, okay. Anyway, he could have gone, don't touch me. But he stood there with humility, and let Jesus have all access, doing what he wanted to do. He was humble, and then he was obedient. Jesus then said, now go to the pool and wash. Now, maybe because he was begging, he thought, okay, I'm just going to stand here, I'm going to take it like a man, let this guy knew his weird thing. But then when he says, go wash. He's like, I'm going home, man, you're crazy. I'm getting out of here, you're nuts. No, he didn't do that. He went to the pool, exactly where Jesus told him to go. And I'd suggest that if you and I posture ourselves with humility and obedience toward God, he's going to transform your life. That's how to see it happen, humility and obedience.

Scott Rodgers: 28:40 I'm going to go deep on you for just a moment, because all you guys who know me know that I'm a deep, deep...right? Wrong? But go ahead and get on your theological scuba gear, because we're going for deep dive. You Ready? Here it is. Here's hopefully a nugget you can take, and always come back to and use. We're going deep. Do what Jesus says, receive what he gives. I know it's too long of a statement. Let me try it again. Do what Jesus says, receive what he gives. Some of you were thinking, come on Scott, I thought for once we were going to go deep. Like I thought we're going to break into the Greek language, and we're going to pull apart some present participles, and dig into all that kind of stuff and look at syllables and all this kind of stuff. Can we go any deeper than humility and obedience towards God. Let's come to him with that posture. God have your way in me. I'll stand and I'll take it like a man, take it like a woman, take it like a follower of Jesus who wants transformation. And I'm going to do what you tell me to do, I'm going to obey. That's how we begin to experience life change.

Scott Rodgers: 29:58 There's something else in here that I think is really helpful for many of us. Go back to verse 25 the guy says, talking about Jesus. hey, whether he sinned or not, I don't know. But one thing I do know, I was blind, but now I see. You and I, maybe you've already experienced this, if not, you may. Especially as you begin to share your faith, and the story of what God's done in your life more openly, you may experience moments of interrogation. That's fair. That's fine. This guy took some heated interrogation. And he finally says, I don't know, but one thing I do know I was blind, now I see. Don't give up what you do know, for what you don't know. Don't give up for what you know was only God, for the things about God that you don't have answers for yet. Don't give up what you do know, for what you don't know.

Scott Rodgers: 30:56 You know in our family, we have six in our family. My wife Shelly and I, three kids, and our dog. How many of you guys are like, I have a dog, a cat, and they're part of the family? Well during Christmas we added someone to our family we added a seventh. And she is, I think I can say she, her name is Alexa. And some of you were still like, what, what, what? You'll catch on in a moment, hopefully. I love Alexa, Alexa is my favorite member of the family now. I'll tell you this, Alexa cooperates with me, more than everyone else in the house. Just right out of the gate. I'll ask Alexa a question, and she gives me an answer. I'll have Alexa do a task she's capable of doing, and it's done. I mean, I love Alexa. I'm like, you know, Alexa, what's the temperature? And she'll say, the temperature today in Folsom, California, that's where we live, is 54 degrees, the low is going to be 48. And I'm like, thank you Alexa. You're welcome. Just on Friday, I'm getting up in the morning, I'm feeling a little groggy and I'm like, Alexa, I need a little boost, you know, I said, Alexa, play James Brown. And like immediately, it's like I feel good, nah, nah, nah, nah. I was like, yes. Okay, that's better, I'm feeling it now. Alexa, play Journey, Don't stop Believing. Oh God is in the house now, let's worship the Lord Jesus, you know, it was awesome. A love of Alexa, I ask Alexa every day, I say, Alexa, what happened this day in history? And I get these little, you know, little history reminders, and I use it for a little small talk now and then throughout the day. I just, I love Alexa is awesome. It's awesome.

Scott Rodgers: 32:43 And just a couple of weeks ago I'm cooking breakfast, and I'm frying up some eggs in a pan, and some spinach in an another pan. Now I don't really love the taste of spinach, but I've been told it's good for me so I eat it. I'm getting my Greens. If I ever find out that spinach isn't good for you, I'm going to be so mad at a few people. It's to challenge my relationship with God, I think. But anyway, so I'm standing in the kitchen and I've never looked up, no one told me, how to cook spinach. So all I do is I put a little butter in the pan, throw this big pile of spinach on it because it reduces really fast, little salt, a little pepper, fry it up until it looks really mushy and gross, and then it's done. And so I'm cooking the eggs and the spatula in one hand, the spoon in the other stirring the spinach. And I just think, you what? I don't know if this is right, like do I pan fry it, and if I do, how long? So I literally go, hey Alexa, how long do I pan fry spinach? And Alexa responds, I don't know. And I'm like Alexa you've been in the family since Christmas, I've never heard you say, I don't know. I mean I held you in such high esteem. My goodness, what am I going to do? So what do you think I did with Alexa? Do you think because she didn't have an answer to that one question that I went over and unplugged Alexa from the counter and threw it in the trash. No, she means too much to me. Don't give up what you do know, for what you don't know.

Scott Rodgers: 34:22 If you think you have all the answers, I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, you don't, we don't. Maybe you know, in your interrogation, someone asks you, like kind of grills you. Like, hey, okay Scott, so you're telling me, okay, Jesus changed your life? Yeah right, okay. Well, you know, that's your crutch, go for it. Or maybe that's your weakness, you need some sort of Meta narrative to give yourself a story to make sense of all the struggles in life, and in the world. Alright, well tell me this Mister God changed your life Scott guy, so then was it creation or evolution? Huh? Because it doesn't science lend itself more to an evolutionary perspective? And maybe, if you're at a place where the honest response for you is, um, I don't know. But I was blind, and now I see, I don't know everything. No, no, no Scott, that's not good enough, that's too subjective. Are you trying to get off the hook? No. I know that you're the Christian Guy, so you believe in the Genesis account of creation. That God's the creator and there's intelligent design. So tell me this then, if you're a creation guy. Are you a young earth creationism, or an old earth creationism? Do you believe that the earth was created in six days, and the earth is less than 10,000 years old? Or might you subscribe to the perspective that hey, carbon dating dates it to 4.6 billion years, and that's a fraud. Tell me if God changed your life, what's your answer to that? Man, I was blind, but now I see, I don't know.

Scott Rodgers: 36:09 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Scott, it's not that easy. Not that easy. I mean, come on, Scott. Isn't it funny how people ask you questions, they don't even have answers to, expecting you to have the answers? I mean, come on man, you're like, yo, creation. But doesn't anthropology tell us that, you know, the Neanderthals were the more superior race, but the sapiens came in. And maybe it was a cognitive revolution that allowed them to outflank them, and overcome them, and exterminate them, and that's why we're all sapiens today. Come on, Scott, what's your answer to that? That I was blind, now I see. No come on dude, okay, if God's so loved the world, why do bad things happen to good people? Man, I was blind, but now I see. No, not going to work. Okay, tell me this Mister God changed your life. If God created Adam and Eve, did they have a belly button? Some of you guys are like, my faith has been shaken in church. I was blind, now I see.

Scott Rodgers: 37:24 Now, I would strongly suggest that as we grow in our faith, we can find answers to some of those honest, legitimate questions and we should. In fact, let me read this to you out of First Peter three, and we'll wrap it up here in just a minute. It says in First Peter three verse 15 to followers of Jesus, "Instead, you must worship Christ as lord of your life. And if someone asks you about your hope as a believer, always be ready to explain it." But may I suggest that if the only explanation you and I have is the honest one, and the honest one is, I don't know, I don't know is sufficient. What we do know is that I was blind, but now I see. I don't know how, but I do know who, and it's Jesus. I've had a genuine encounter with Christ, and my life has changed, and I'm still a work in progress. Don't give up what you don't know for what you do know, and what you do now for what you don't know. It's a tongue twister, isn't it? An encounter with Christ changes our life.

Scott Rodgers: 38:38 Look, let's go back just for a moment, and wrap this up. Verse three, go back to if you still have your Bible in front of you. They asked him who sinned, remember? Because they thought like suffering was the result of, you know physical suffering, was the result of personal sin. And Jesus said that neither this man or his parents sinned, but. Everybody say, but. This happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him, regardless of what caused it. That's a different conversation, right? God can get glory in it. What if your greatest struggle? You know the stuff, the stuff that we're like, man, I want to shed my stuff. If change is possible, I've got some stuff that I'd love to see in my past. Anybody have stuff? Like you know, raising every limb I have, right? What is your greatest struggle? Take it even a step further, even your darkest moment becomes something that God gets glory in, what if he is glorified in our mess? You know, he doesn't say what caused this man's condition. You know, my perspective is it's a thief who comes to steal, kill, and destroy and all that, and we have bad choices we make on it, that's a whole different conversation. But where we are in our struggle, and even our darkest moment, God can get glory in it. If we come to him with a posture of humility and obedience and allow him to do a transforming work in us. I just want to stir you up to be hungry for more change, and to pursue it. And I think it honors God to expect it, because that's what he wants to do in our life.

Scott Rodgers: 40:36 Let's pray. Let's pray. Father God, man, were just so grateful that you chose to put John nine in the Bible, the story of this guy. God, I just think I speak for many of us, it gives us hope today, that experiencing transformation isn't complex, isn't always difficult, it's just simply coming to you with humility and obedience. And once we genuinely experience you, God, we can expect to be changed. And thank you Lord that as we share our story, that we don't have to have all of the answers, we just have some of the answers. As our story points others to you, that you're the one who genuinely changes hearts and lives. God, I pray for our friends here today, even those in joining us online, and at San Tan, and Scottsdale. God, I pray for those of us here who don't have a relationship with you, God, that today you would grab their attention, reveal yourself, show us the love that you have for every single one of us, and the grace that you want to lavish upon us, God. And may we even tonight, before we go to sleep, simply pray and call out on you God. And say, God, be the guide of my life. Jesus. B, be the lord of my life, the leader of my life. Forgive me of my stuff, and my sin, and change me as I come to you with humility and obedience, God. And for those of us who are followers of Christ, may we walk out of here hungry for change again, to see you move. And may we be willing to put it on display for your glory. And we thank you for this in Jesus' name. Amen.



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