More Politics

Politics bring up important Christian topics to discuss.

Linn Winters
Oct 14, 2018    40m
In this sermon Pastor Linn Winters continues teaching us about Solomon, and his quest to discover more meaning in life. This time he tried, and failed, to find more meaning in politics. Therefore, this sermon talks about politics, and the important Christian topics that arise from choosing who to vote for. Video recorded at Chandler, Arizona.

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Linn Winters: 00:18 Hey, Cornerstone, how are you guys doing?

Linn Winters: 00:23 Hey, we're in the middle of what I think is actually a really, really interesting series that we've called More, and if you've been here the last couple of weeks, you've realized that more is really a conversation about the life of a guy by the name of Solomon. A guy purported to be the wisest man who ever walked the face of the earth, and yet in the midst of his wisdom, he still wasn't fulfilled. So he began to ask this question, what if I had more? What is the thing I could get? What is it that I could accomplish? What is it that's missing, that if I had it, that more of that thing, that I would find a life of fulfillment and satisfaction? What's the secret sauce? The "more" that I need to add to my life, that life would suddenly have meaning for me? What more do I need?

Linn Winters: 01:15 And so Solomon begins this just absolutely epic journey of acquiring more. The first place he changes is financial wealth. He says, hey, maybe if I had enough money, I could buy myself some happiness, I could buy the things that would fulfill me and made me feel good. I could buy my way out of my problems. Maybe if I just had more wealth, that would be the thing that would fill up my life. And so Solomon, he begins to earnestly just acquire more and more and more money. To the point, you ready for this? To the point that by the time Solomon's done, his wealth is 30 times more than the wealth of Bill Gates. I mean, just think about that for a second, 30 times more wealth than what Bill Gates has. And when he has that much wealth, he comes to the conclusion, and says, it's not more money, that is not the thing that will finally fulfill your heart and fulfill your life.

Linn Winters: 02:12 So then he says, well, okay, so maybe it's sex. And so Solomon begins to chase sex. As a matter of face, before it's said and done, you Ready? Solomon has 1000 wives and concubines, and by the time he's done he says, you know what? I'm just telling you the answer isn't more sex. Truth is 100 would have been enough. No, I'm teasing. I'm teasing. But he says, hey, that's just not the thing that's gonna fill you up.

Linn Winters: 02:42 Last week we talked about Solomon's pursuit of work. He said, maybe if I could accomplish enough, maybe if I was successful enough, maybe if I finally got to that corner office, maybe if I did enough things that were beneficial to society as a whole, maybe my work could bring me lasting satisfaction and fulfillment. And at the end of the day he says, you just can't build enough, you can't climb the corporate ladder high enough, you do not find fulfillment within your work.

Linn Winters: 03:12 Today Solomon is going to tackle politics. Again he asks the question, he says, Hey, maybe if we just had the right people in leadership, maybe if we got the correct people in office so they did their jobs really, really well, maybe if we had just the right policies, and society could be helped and moved in a positive way. Maybe that would bring a sense of fulfillment and accomplishment for all of us, and maybe we'd be fulfilled. And so he goes after politics. So today we're just going to kind of do that journey with him a little bit. But here's the thing I should just say this out loud. I am not unaware that within our culture there's two things you should never, never, never, never, never talk about. One of them is religion, and the other one is politics. And apparently I'm dumb enough, every Sunday, to talk about religion. So I thought, why not just throw in a little politics for good measure? Yeah, just do it. Now, here's what you need to hear me say, I am not going to endorse a candidate, I am not going to promote a political party, that is not my agenda and I will not. What I'm hoping is that you and I, today, will come to a biblical perspective of how Christians and politics ought to interact. And here's the thing Solomon's going to say to us before it's said and done. If you're counting on politics to be the thing that brings your more, that brings the fulfillment and satisfaction, that fixes this world we live in, you'll be disappointed.

Linn Winters: 04:58 Here we go. Grab your bibles, and you and I have an amazing privilege to sit down with the wisest man who ever walked the face of the earth, and have a conversation about politics. Here we go, it's Ecclesiastes chapter four. Now, if you're not familiar, the easiest way to get to this Book of Ecclesiastes. If you just take your Bible, stick your thumb dead center, you're probably going to open to the book of Psalms. Begin to go to the right a little bit, you'll see the book of Proverbs, and then you're going to get to this Book of Ecclesiastes Ecclesiastes, chapter four, starting in verse 13. Here's what Solomon says about politics, "Better a poor but wise youth than an old but foolish king who no longer knows how to heed a warning. The youth may have come from prison to the kingship, or he may have been born in poverty within the kingdom. I saw that all who lived, and walked, under the sun followed the youth, the king's successor." Now get the moment. So Solomon says, okay, so there's this older king, and as he gets kind of toward the tail end, the twilight years of his reign. He begins to make really, really bad decisions. And we don't know, maybe this was a little bit of senility setting in. Maybe he's just saying, look, I've spent my whole life in public service, it's time to do something for me, who cares that this is going to be on the backs of the people. We don't know. He just says, look, he wasn't a very good king. So there rose up a young man who said, look, look, look, if I were king, things would be different. If you would put me in office, I'm just telling you, I would make laws that would benefit everybody. I would strive for fairness. Our economy would move forward. You and I would all be treated like equals. I'm just telling you, life would be better with me as king. And scripture says, and they lined up. Everybody said, that's what we need. That's the shift we need to make politically.

Linn Winters: 06:50 Okay, back to the passage, verse 16, "There was no end to all the people who were before him. Everybody said, this is our answer, but those who came later, we're not pleased with the successor. This too is meaningless, a chasing of the wind." So get the moment. There was an original king, and older king, who everybody agreed wasn't a great king. Than a young guy came up, said, if you'd make me king, I would make things better. Everybody was in line. Everybody said, that's the answer, go this direction politically with this guy. And they put him in office and he had the opportunity, they controlled the Senate, they ruled the House of Representatives, and they began to put in place all of these political reforms. Everything was moving in a positive direction. And then, you ready? And then came the next generation. And the next generation said, wait, wait, wait, wait, we've gone too far with, we don't have enough of. And then they said, we're discontent with that king, we're going to put in our king, and politically the pendulum swings and goes completely the other way. And anybody want to guess what happened after he was in power? And so Solomon says, you realize that when you chase politics, because it will always swing from side to side. And just about the time you think you've got it figured out, and things are finally moving in the right direction, the pendulum will swing, and they'll put the other guy in office.

Linn Winters: 08:19 And guys, I'm just telling you, ready for this? If you've lived long enough, you know that Solomon's right. Because you've seen moments in which we elected presidents, and you went, finally, finally a guy who gets it, finally, someone who's going to put the right laws in place, and they did. And it moved our country in a direction for awhile, and you said to yourself, this is where we need to be headed. And then, and then, the generation changed, the term limits played out. And your thought in that moment was, hey, we need to elect another king like the first king. And instead the pendulum swung, and they elected somebody completely different, who began to dismantle everything that you thought was valuable. And Solomon says, if you put your hope in politics, it's like chasing the wind.

Linn Winters: 09:11 Let me see if I can help you realize this conversation. Politics is as old as civilization. That the reality is there have always been conservatives, and there have always been liberals. And a matter of fact, if you go back and take a look, the reality is the basic premises of both of those two sides really haven't changed much. There may be some sort of political decisions, or maybe some actual mandates put through that are slightly different over the years, but the fundamental beliefs that drive both of those two camps are in essence unchanged. And so what happens is you have a group that says, Hey, what we really need is lots of personal liberty. Governments should not be intruding into our morality. We should be free to live however we want to live, and people should be done to themselves. And then the other political party says, no, no, no, no, the most important thing is personal responsibility. This isn't about everybody doing what they want to do, this is what's best for the majority of people. And then the other party says, Hey, but wait a minute, not everybody gets a fair start, some people are further behind than other people. It's the government's responsibility to level the playing field, it's the government's responsibility to step in and help out. And the other party says, Hey, wait a minute, when you give handouts, you diminish a person's humanity. It's not about making a level, it's about everybody doing their fair share. And thus the pendulum goes back and forth, and back and forth. And Solomon says, there is no end, trying to get this to work is like chasing the wind.

Linn Winters: 10:44 And then you and I say to ourselves, well, wait a minute. After all of this time, it seems like we ought to be able to take the best of one political party, their best ideas, their most valuable things, and then take the best ideas, the best principles of the other, and marry those two things together. And you would end up with something really, really special. Here's the problem. You realize that philosophically, they're are completely polar opposites. They're antithetical to each other. You cannot marry these two different philosophies of how the world ought to work together. Matter of fact, you ready for this? The closer you get to the middle, the less effective both parties are. Matter of fact, if you actually get to the middle, all you accomplish is frustrating everybody. Think coffee. You ready for this? Some people like coffee hot, some people like coffee cold, but nobody likes coffee at room temperature. And the answer is it will go back, and then this king, and that king. And Solomon says, if you chase political answers, you will chase the wind.

Linn Winters: 12:03 And here's why guys, the thing that is broken in our world cannot be solved politically. Let me just say that again. The thing that is broken in our world does not have a political solution. It's why trying to solve it politically, is chasing the wind. Every year, a couple of years, every couple years, I take a group of people over to Israel. And it's interesting because you'll get there and I'll say, hey, do you realize right on these steps, this is where Jesus taught The Sermon on the Mount? Hey, did you know that right here, this was the birthplace of Jesus? In which, when he was born here, he fulfilled an eight hundred year old prophecy. And as we do that, we walk through, and people go wow. Wait, wait, wait, wait, it's just so obvious as you're here, the wonder of Jesus, the amazingness of Jesus. How did the Jews miss Jesus? Isn't that a great question? How could you live in Israel? How could Jesus be there? How could you miss Jesus if you were a first century Jew? And you know what the answer is? They were looking for a political solution.

Linn Winters: 13:19 Here's the deal. If you were a first century Jew, you would have said, the biggest problem we have is Rome. See, Rome has invaded us, and they've taken us over, and they basically have put us into servitude. They didn't ask for our permission, and now they've levied horrible taxes. We have absolutely no representation. We have no voice in this thing. We can't vote, and the truth is, we can actually be arrested and convicted and thrown into prison without a trial because we're not a Roman. It is obvious that our biggest problem is a political problem, therefore we need a political solution. And guys, I'm just telling you that it's tempting nowadays, I think especially as Christians, to go, you know what? The thing that's most broken in our country is a political problem, so we must need a political solution. Here's the deal. When Jesus was here as on the earth, over and over and over and over, the Jews came to him and said, let us make you king. And over and over and over again, Jesus refused. Why? Because Jesus knew that what was broken in this world was not political, and so he refused to be a politician.

Linn Winters: 14:42 Let me see if I can help. The reference point for every civilization, is the morality, and the culture, and the hearts of its people. That's the reference point. It's what do they believe? What do they cherish? What do they hold dear? This is always the pivotal point in every culture. And here's what you're going to find. You're ready? Law is always a reflection of the hearts of the people in the culture. Let me say that again. Law always is a reflection of the moral character, of the hearts, of the people in the culture. If you move a heart, guess what law does. See, some of us are sitting here today. and we go, man, I can't believe some of the laws that have passed recently in our society. You know why those laws have happened? Because our hearts moved, and law is simply reflecting where we have gone culturally.

Linn Winters: 16:08 Think about this. When I'm a kid, my parents would take us on road trips. And while we were on road trips, they would put a blanket up on the shelf behind the backseat, up on the shelf, the rear window right there. And they would let me sleep there for hours. Can you imagine if they had simply put on the brakes? I would've been kissing the windshield, But back in that day that was okay, and then our culture shifted, and for some strange reason, people decided that children are valuable. But you want to actually love your kids, as a reflection of that, we passed this crazy, crazy law that says you've got to have a car seat. And today, every single one of us, without even apologizing, without even a thought, we put our children in car seats until they're 43. That's what we do. Because if you love your children, then the law is going to reflect that. And everyone goes, boy, why would you put your 14 year old in the front seat, facing forward with the airbag? Shame on you. Right? Because we were ready for that, because it's the values of the culture, that write the laws of of the culture.

Linn Winters: 17:29 But here's what never happens, you ready? That you write a law, and then the hearts of the culture come to mirror the law. It doesn't happen. This is the reason that politics can't fix what's broken. Because you cannot write a law that fixes a heart. Ready? Prohibition. That one worked right? We made a law that said no one can drink, and culture laughed. I'll give you another one. Do you realize, that we are sixty years in to trying to fight racism? Sixty years ago we began to pass laws that said, it's wrong to discriminate. You cannot make decisions based on someone's skin color, and 60 years later we are still up to our eyeballs struggling with this topic, because because because you cannot make a law that changes a heart. And what's broken in our culture cannot be fixed politically, it can only be fixed when we change a heart.

Linn Winters: 19:00 Here's the deal. Some of you right now are a little bit frustrated with me, and you're going, Linn, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. No, I'm pretty sure if we got the right people in office, if we got the right...And, right now what I've said to you that chasing after politics is like chasing the wind. I've made you a little bit angry. But if this is bothering you, can I just ask this? Is it possible that the reason this it's bothering you is because you've made politics your more? Politics is how we're going to solve this problem. Politics is how we're all going to be fulfilled in our lives, because anytime someone challenges a "more", it always makes us angry.

Linn Winters: 19:49 Let me give an example. When I say to young couples, Hey, you shouldn't sleep together until you're married. I make those young couples angry. You know why? Because the guy says, no, no, no, no, Linn, this is my more. Matter of fact my plan is to have more and more and more. The young lady says, Linn, you don't understand, since we've started sleeping together, he's been more attentive. He seems to be more committed to the....This is how I'm ultimately going to get him to finally settled down with me. This is my more, and Linn, you're attacking my more. When I talk to Christians and say, Hey, you should tithe. Can I just tell you? Christians instantly get angry with me. Angry. You know why? Because I'm attacking their more, because whether they want to admit it, or say it out loud or not. In that moment when I say, you should be giving to your church, you ought to be tithing, that sounds like less. And they're like, Linn, you don't understand, I'm counting on my money to ultimately get me more. So don't tell me not to chase my more, and actually have less. So is it possible? Is it possible that when I tell you politics is not the thing that's going to fix this world, that if you chase after that, if that becomes the thing, you are ultimately chasing the wind, and if that frustrates you, is it because you've made politics more?

Linn Winters: 21:33 Now, I'm going to shift gears, and some of you are going to think, hey Linn, wait, wait, wait, wait, it feels like you're talking out of both sides of your mouth. Because you just told us, hey, politics isn't where we put our hope, this isn't the thing that's going to fix our world. And yet I'm going to turn right around and tell you that I believe that every Christian ought to be involved in politics. That you and I have an amazing, amazing gift, a privilege. To actually influence our government. And that anytime you have that opportunity, anytime you have a gift, you and I are required to steward that as best we can. It's as if you had an amazing voice, I would be saying to you, I wonder how God wants you to use that voice for his glory. If you have the ability to speak, or the ability to serve. I would be asking you, I wonder why God gave you that ability, and how he wants you to steward your ability to speak or your ability to serve for the kingdom's sake? And folks for you and me, as Christians, to be given the privilege to vote, I wonder how God wants you and me to steward that for his glory and for his namesake. And I believe that every Christ follower ought to take part in every election, that we would represent him.
Linn Winters: 22:57 Now, here's the other thing you need to hear. You don't have to agree with me politically, You don't. You don't have to dot your i's, where I dot my i's. You don't have to cross your t's, where I cross my t's. You don't have to agree with me politically, but you do have to agree with Jesus. I'm going to say that again, you don't have to agree with me politically, but you do have to agree with your savior.

Linn Winters: 23:27 Grab your bibles, go with me to the book of Galatians. If you're not familiar, go to the back of your Bible, start working to the left, if you get to Ephesians, you're almost there, keep going to the left. Galatians chapter two, verse twenty, here's what it says, "I have been crucified with Christ, and I no longer live." You could get what it's saying in that moment? That when you crossed over into belief, when you gave your heart and your life to Jesus, you died to yourself so that you could live for him. Which means your plans, your ideas, your preferences, went to the side, so that you could follow his plans, his ideas, and his preferences in your life. That you were committed to living a life for him, and not a life for yourself.

Linn Winters: 24:37 Romans chapter 12 says, "I beseech you therefore brothers, by the mercies of God, that you present your entire life a living sacrifice to Jesus. Which means you no longer live the way you wanted to live, you live the way he wanted you to live. Which means if you're dating, you don't date the way you want to date, you date, the way Jesus wants you to date. It means when you decide what you're going to take in for entertainment, you don't decide what you want, you decide what Jesus would want you to take in for entertainment. When you decide to use your mouth, you don't use your mouth the way that you want to use your mouth. This is a good thing, because if you're the person who cut me off on the way to church, there were things that I wanted to use my mouth for...And instead I had to use my mouth the way Jesus wanted me to use my mouth. And so I just simply said, Jesus, do you dude, Jesus do you. Rather than what I wanted to do, right? Because you ready for this? Because when we became followers of Christ, we set aside our agenda, and plan for his. Which means when you go into the polling place, you go in there to vote his heart, not your heart. It is so shocking to me how many Christians say, hey, this is my spiritual life, and this is my political life. There is no such thing. If you are a follower of Jesus, your life is his life.

Linn Winters: 26:12 So I will just tell you that I go into the polling booth, not with my agenda, I do my very best to go into the polling booth with his. So let me just give you a couple things that I process when I go to vote. One is this, if you've been unfaithful to your spouse, that's a huge pause for me, because scripture is super, super clear to say that marriage is a sacred thing. That the promises, and the covenants, when you stand in front of your friends, and in front of God, and swear, I am committed to you. And when things get hard, I'm going to lean in, and not lean away. And if you will break your promise to the person you claim to love the most in this world, let alone break your promise to God, I'm pretty sure you'll break your promises to me. And I'm just going to tell you that if you are somebody who cheats on your spouse, I'm going to pause, I'm going to pause and think really, really, really hard before you get my vote. Now I know what some of your thinking, Linn, there's no one left to vote for. I didn't say it was going to be easy, I said, we're supposed to reflect Jesus.

Linn Winters: 27:35 Let me give you another one. If you're racist, if you're racist, you're going to have a really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really hard time getting my vote. Because Galatians chapter two says "That now in Christ, there are no longer masters and slaves, female or male, that every last one of us stands in front of the cross completely and totally equal." And if you're a racist, and you discriminate, you just need to know you're going to have a really hard time getting my vote.

Linn Winters: 28:18 Let me give you another one. If you are pro abortion, I will not vote for you. Because Psalms 139 says that when David was in his mother's womb, God knew him, had a relationship with him, and you can't have a relationship with a hunk of flesh, but you can have a relationship with a person. Matter of fact, psalm 139 goes on to say that while he was there, God knit him together. Jeremiah says, before I was even born, you had plans for me. And if you're telling me that you're going to cast your vote to kill a human, I will not give you my vote.

Linn Winters: 29:08 Here's another one, if you're going to be reckless with this world, if you're just going to be cavalier and you don't care how we take care of it or how we treat it. Look, I'm not saying you can't chop down a tree, and I'm not saying you can't drive your SUV, that's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying if you're going to be cavalier about this world, and if you're going to treat it with disregard, that's a problem. Because Genesis chapter two said, this world was entrusted to our care, and we need to at least steward it well, so there's something for the next generation. And if you don't care about that, then you're going to have a hard time getting my vote.

Linn Winters: 29:47 Because when I go into the ballot, I don't vote my agenda, I try to follow scripture and the heart of my Jesus as closely as I can. Okay? Now that I have angered everybody in the room, and nobody can figure out what political party I'm part of. Okay? And before we get all discouraged here. Let's shift gears and talk about something that I think might just thrill your hearts, because here's the thing, Jesus gave you and me an offer to join him and doing something that's bigger than any political party. He said, I've got something that's more important, that's more world changing, then which direction you voted in the last election.

Linn Winters: 30:34 So grab your bibles, and go with me to one last time to the book of Matthew. Go to the back of your Bible, start working to the left, Book of Matthew. If you start getting into some books with some really, really, really weird names, you've ventured into the Old Testament, come back to the New Testament. Matthew, Chapter Sixteen, verse thirteen. Amazing moment. Here we go. You Ready? Matthew Sixteen, verse thirteen. "When Jesus had come to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, who do people say the son of man is? Son of man, referring to himself. Now here's the thing, you and I, as Gentiles living 2000 years later, we hear Caesarea Philippi, and we go, oh, it's probably just some Jewish settlement. It's not a Jewish settlement, it's a Roman destination. And here's what the Romans did, they went to the side of a mountain, where the side of the mountain was nearly straight up and down, and then they began to carve into the mountain all sorts of niches and nooks. And in every one of those hundreds of niches and nooks, they placed a Roman God. Caesarea Philippi is a commemoration, a statement, of the power of Rome. And what you need to understand within the culture of the day, is that politics and religion were completely intermingled. They would have said to you, our gods are stronger than your gods, that's why Rome rules. And Rome rules, because our gods are better than yours, they were completely together. So here is this statement of the absolute power of the Roman government.

Linn Winters: 32:28 Here's what you need to know. The closest I can imagine of what this was like to stand at Caesarea Philippi, would be if you and I went to Washington and stood in the mall. And as you stand there, and you can look forward and you can see Congress, and behind you is the Washington monument, of to the side is the White House, and on the other side is the Lincoln Memorial. And when you stand in that moment, you get a little sense of just the girth, and the magnitude of the power of the United States. But here's what you need to know. Rome was far more powerful than the United States has ever been. Because Rome at this time, rules everything that is worth ruling. It's as if the United States could suddenly be in charge of all of Europe, all of Asia, and all of the Soviet Union, and then we'd be close to the power of Rome. And here is Caesarea Philippi, a statement piece, to the absolute domination and power that is Rome. In the middle of that shear wall cliff, with all of these false gods, is a cave, and out of the cave comes a river. The belief was that that river, ready, the river Styx ran all the way down to the gates of hell. And this place became known as the place in which all of government, and all of religions power, came together in one place.

Linn Winters: 33:57 And Jesus, think about this, takes his twelve disciples, in this very, very, very beginning thing we call Christianity. And the twelve of them huddled together, and the disciples still aren't even sure who Jesus is, or if they even believe this stuff. And in the face of the power of Rome, Jesus asked them this question, who do you say I am? Verse 14, they replied, some say you're John The baptist, others say you're Elijah, still others Jeremiah or maybe one of the prophets come back to life. But what about you, He asked, who do you say that I am? Simon Peter answered, you are the Messiah, the son of the living God. Jesus replied, blessed are you Simon, son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my father in heaven. I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I'll build my church. And some of you that come from more traditional settings, think that Jesus said, Oh, you're Peter, and I'll build my church upon you Peter. That is not what the epistemology of the sentence means. He said, Peter, which is a pebble, you had just barely touched onto the truth that's about to happen here, and upon this boulder, upon myself, I will build my church. And it will be greater than everything you see here. And you ready? And the gates of hell, which by the way are right over there, will not prevail against it.

Linn Winters: 35:43 Guys, I'm inviting you to join me in something that is bigger than governments, and it's bigger than politics, and it has a chance to fix what's broken in this world. Because we're not going to go fix law, we're going to go fix the hearts of men and women. It's why Jesus refused to be a politician, and chose instead to be a savior, and he invited you and me to join him on that journey. And guys, I'm just telling you, that journey is more important than who's in charge of Congress. That journey (congregation claps) three of us, thank you. That journey is greater than which political party wins this next election. And look, I've got the party, I've got the things I hope win. I'm just telling you, that's not where my hope is. Because the solution for what's broken in this world, is not a political solution, it's a heart solution. And you and I have already been invited to that story.

Linn Winters: 36:59 So let me ask you a question. With the current climate, and we all get it right, the current climate is pretty tough right now. In the current climate, how much vitreal have you had? How many little posts have you put on Facebook, and how many arguments have you had out there about political thing? And does your passion for political things, match your passion for the Kingdom? Because you realize when you chase politics, you chase the wind. But when you chase Jesus, you chase the solution. And you realize that especially in this world, as Christ followers, we walk into every conversation with a bucket full of gas and a bucket full of water. And then you're going to make a choice, you're either going to go into that encounter and are you're going to throw gas on it. Argh, and you're wrong, and all of you argh. You know, blow people up. And let's just say, maybe you get a Republican to become a Democrat, or you get a Democrat to become a Republican, and at the end of the day, what have you won? Or you and I have the opportunity to walk into that same conversation with a bucket of water, living water, to instead of introducing them to a political party, introduce them to something that would change their lives.

Linn Winters: 38:29 Guys, even for those of us in the room that are political, when you change your heart, the law eventually comes along. Where are you going to put your heart? Where are you going to put your effort? I choose the savior, above a politician.

Linn Winters: 38:56 Let's pray. Dearest heavenly father, we we come to a moment, and God we're just going to be honest, it's a hard moment to navigate. Because, no matter what political party you're part of right now, it just looks like our politics are in a rut, they're in chaos. And it's so easy to say, well, we've got political problems, so surely there's a political solution, a political answer to what's going on. God give us the wisdom of Solomon, who after he chased this thing of politics, came and said, you're chasing the wind. Because what's broken in our world is not political, it's the hearts, the lives of men and women. Chase that, chase that. Offer the world a savior, and not a politician. God help us, who follow you, to be the tip of the spear. To go into a world that's in chaos, and brokenness right now, and bring buckets of water, living water, that change the hearts of men and women. This we pray in Jesus' name, Amen.

Recorded in Chandler, Arizona.
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